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last hour I talked about the real bodies

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exhibit that the real bodies exhibit is

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under investigation le in England you

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know the real bodies that you go to the

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museum and you see these bodies and

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they're supposed to be dead bodies that

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are on display and they're plastinated

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they're all plastic it's like going to

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see going to a wax museum but you

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realize the the wax dummies are based on

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real bodies and our real bodies standing

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there looking at you is they're going

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through they're posed and all these

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weird poses well apparently these real

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body plastination displays that were in

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England they found out that a lot of

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these a lot of these guys were being

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posed in these in these museum exhibits

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or actually Chinese citizens that were

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jailed for their religious beliefs and

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so apparently near the lab there where

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this goes on these guys were actually

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been killed they were killed and then

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their bodies were turned over for these

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experiments or for these museums for

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these exhibits and I'm thinking oh man

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you know that that that is the extreme

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of it all right that's the extreme at

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all where your body is given to some

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display all skin so you know somebody

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can show up in a museum and gawk at you

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I mean these real body museum displays

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you know they say well we preserve the

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bodies of the Willing people donate

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their bodies to us but now there's an

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investigation of just how willing they

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are right so you know here's the thing

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you know you're doing research like this

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and you're saying look I'm not gonna

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give my DNA up I'm not I'm certainly

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gonna give my blood type up and you know

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I stumbled upon some other terrifying

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information about how genetic

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experiments we thought were finished

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with those we thought the genetic

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tinkering radiation experiments all

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these experiments were finished that

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there would be over would no more and

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then I find an unclassified list a

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Declassified list that was requested by

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the Federation of American scientists

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FAS actually contacted the through FOIA

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Freedom of Information Act documents for

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the Department of Energy about projects

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that they're doing right

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300 people are involved in these

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projects some of these projects are with

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children Department of Energy Children

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projects all I can think of a stranger

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things right now that's that's all I can

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think of there's project Tristan project

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Helios project moose drool little

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workers Idaho bailiff geo Weiser active

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infrared standoff multimodal biometrics

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hidden valley all these projects are

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listed in his Freedom of Information Act

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thinking ooh so there are these

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experiments continuing and this is like

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stranger things again so I put in a

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phone call to Tim Schwartz who is an

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Emmy Award winning television producer

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videographer author of a number of

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popular books including the lost

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journals of Nikola Tesla America's

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strange and supernatural history secret

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government the whole list

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photojournalist has done a lot of work

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travelled extensively through the world

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so I thought I'd bring Tim on to comment

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on this Tim welcome to Ground Zero hey

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Clyde thank you very much for having me

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on tonight so You certainly have a

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background in black projects and budget

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set aside for these dark experiments and

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I know people are familiar with the show

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stranger things and it's so weird that

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every time something like this comes up

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you're wondering if stranger things is

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more of a documentary it's a fictional

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tale of kids being basically

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experimented upon by the Department of

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Energy but now we have this whole list

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of these extreme experiments that are

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going on you know I thought we were rid

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of this is this continuing so of course

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it's continuing you know if you think

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it's not then you're being naive just

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just because that some of these projects

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from the past have been uncovered that

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doesn't mean that that they're gonna

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stop you know now I was looking at this

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the list that that you had provided me

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the what wasn't here at the 2017 do a

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report and a lot of these names of these

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projects are I mean there's no way to

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tell Oh what is going on like usually

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have Tristan Helios moose

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little workers the one that I did find

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though now the shortwave infrared

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actually a face recognition using a

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shortwave infrared to try to improve the

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quality of it

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so they're using humans to improve the

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quality of facial recognition exactly

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well I mean you know what are they

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supposed to when they does is it being

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supposed to microwave radiation and that

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whatever whatever that is I mean it's uh

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if I have if I had the time I'd be able

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to you know look that up to tell you

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exactly what it is it looks like that

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they've got what 22 people are

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participating which is really a small

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group right but and then the was that

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the active data user study Chinchilla

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that has to do with comparison comparing

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chinchilla genomes with human because

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chinchilla that are similar to humans

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like the the inner ear workings

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trying to see if they can develop to

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chilla genomes to study humans and human

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diseases and things like that but those

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were really easy to to look out there

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you know it's gonna be impossible to

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look up some of these more obscure ones

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like you so daughters must rule

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something having to do is spit I kid you

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not it has that something new is spit

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23andme it has something to his spit

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ancestry and something to a spit moose

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drawl spit obviously spit yeah spit a

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lot of times these

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you know classified experiments you're

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right you know they'll use a name that

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is descriptive of the project other

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times you know not so much so you know

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we'll really just you know little

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earlier I mean that could very well be a

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project where they're using children

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children have always been popular test

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subjects when it comes to these kinds of

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government military experiments there is

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one where they actually use children for

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these children were each young just

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three years old oh I didn't know that oh

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plenty of nose bleeds to go around I

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guess yes exactly

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therapy bleeding noses it just certainly

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is you know creepy especially when who

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that was the head of the Department of

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some of the experiments that do the

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Department of Energy he even said that

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they do experiments in the upside down

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they'll say well do they do they do

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dimensional experiments and do they do

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experiments with kids and do that is oh

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no no no the Department of Energy

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doesn't do that at all it doesn't judge

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whatever some stranger things told you

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don't believe it it's a work of fiction

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and so uh you know I'll play that clip

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amazing he said that they do these

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experiments and he's the guy that would

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I'm educated beyond what these projects

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are that we uncovered that are going on

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right now experimental projects we don't

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they are it's like something out of pay

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dripped out of stranger things we're

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talking about that tonight at Ground

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come don't go away

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many of you have aware that are aware

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that some Ernest Moniz who is the United

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States Secretary of Energy appeared on

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Chelsea Handler to talk about stranger

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actually he's a nuclear physicist he

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actually dropped some truth bombs on

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this episode of Chelsea Handler about

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what goes on in stranger things the

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the experiments that happened listen to

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this I have a curious question for you

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you I don't know if you ever saw

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stranger things have you guys paid

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attention this phenomena show they have

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a Department of Energy and they spend a

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lot of time investigating what can you

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tell us about that I can tell you first

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of all that I've never seen it but but

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I'm aware of it secondly I believe this

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fictional de laboratory was operating in

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the 1980s you can draw whatever

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inference you wish from that third I

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will note that actually we do work in

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it turns out actually the first question

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was about responsibilities and I focused

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on energy but we also had nuclear

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security responsibilities like the Iran

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agreement we are also a big supporter of

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very basic science and that includes

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trying to understand the basic particles

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of nature and the structure of the

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universe it turns out theoretical

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physics addressing that who looks at

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things like higher dimensions than three

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dimensions a strange variation for us

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but autobiographies say we but I would

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not get carried away in terms of some of

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the other things that happen I believe

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basically what do you say there's no dim

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Igor gun that's what he was trying to

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say but the truth is that there are

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things it was really funny as the Joshua

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TV show called Fringe which is about

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time travel which is about experiments

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and and actually experiment that went on

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with kids who had supernatural powers so

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it's kind of the same idea that fringe

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has it was a kid it was a group of kids

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who were being experimented upon that

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they could go do time-travel kind of

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like what happened on cycling stranger

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things but stranger things it's more

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focused on the kids and the

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experimentation Tim Schwartz with us

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tonight on ground zero you know what can

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you tell us about Montauk you have any

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ideas about what really went on there

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camp hero Montauk was allegedly Clyde an

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offshoot of the Philadelphia Experiment

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which which happened in the 1940s you

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purely by accident

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we're a navy ship they were trying to

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dig out it and it ended up allegedly

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becoming invisible and teleporting and

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killing a bunch of the crewmen on board

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well supposedly because of what was

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learned from that initial experiment it

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was then later taken to Montauk Long

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Island to camp here

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where they started using supposedly

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runaway children boys especially and you

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have to realize that you know there

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there's been so many stories that have

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surfaced about this it's it's becoming

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more more difficult to separate the

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wheat from the chaff exactly there's

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always a mythology surrounding things

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like this it's like anything that you

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when you get into the story the I guess

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the meat of the story would be the yes

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experimentation went on a camp hero

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there were children using children a lot

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of it had to do with Stargate

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experiments MK artichoke MKULTRA many

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experiments they wanted to remote view

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Russian targets during the Cold War I

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mean a lot of that stuff that 11 does in

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stranger things is certainly the same

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type of stuff that they were getting

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kids to do under the cover of the Army

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was an Army project they had nothing to

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do with a CI had everything to do with

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the army so that's what we're seeing

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right now is we're seeing these types of

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projects who are saving for the little

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workers the the facial recognition the

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infrared all these secret experiments

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going on we don't know where they're

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going oh they're actually being done in

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labs they're sponsored by a lot of

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people that have money to go into these

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projects in fact I want to talk about

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coming up a project that was invested by

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a well known figure that turned out to

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be a very bad vaccine that was being

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used to experiment on people the Food

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and Drug Administration right now are

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investigating it but you're not gonna

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hear it on the mainstream news you're

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gonna hear it here on ground zero pretty

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terrifying activity going on Triple

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Eight 673 3,700 that's Triple Eight 673

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3700 and the times of genetic tinkering

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and the times of radiation experiments

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where we thought everything in stock we

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thought the Tuskegee experiments with

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syphilis were over there are now studies

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being carried out on people even young

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people right now similar to what's going

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on or what happened and the TV show

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stranger things Tim Schwartz with us to

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that on ground zero and your calls

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triple 8 673 3,700 that's triple 8 673

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3700 others back with more don't go away

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you are listed a ground zero that I'm

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just callin I travel 867 337 under

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that's triple 8 6 7 3 3,700 people are

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giving out too much information on

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Facebook they're giving away their DNA

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there they don't know where it goes they

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don't know what's going on we know that

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secret experiments are going on again on

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a human subject GlaxoSmithKline just

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made a deal 300 million dollars for a

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4-year collaboration with 23andme wide

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because they want to use the DNA that's

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already stored for drug code targeting

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so you can imagine what they can do with

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all that power and how they've created a

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gimmick to get people to hand over their

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DNA and then thinking to whatever they

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want with it you know you were talking

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earlier with me off the air about an

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experiment actually not experiment it

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was a DNA story the a lot of people are

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not aware of about how this was done to

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a woman was it in the 1950s Tim Tim

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Schwartz well this is Tim yeah that's

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that's correct it it involved an

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african-american woman by the name of

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Henrietta Lacks she had gone to the

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hospital to with complaints after a

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pregnancy and it was discovered that she

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had a tumor in her or uterus at some

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point during her treatment they they

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took a sample from this tumor and

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developed basically what was the first

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Mason make sure I get this correct

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the first immortalised cell line from

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this now that immortalized cell line

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will reproduced indefinitely under

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specific conditions and they developed

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what was what's called the the HeLa cell

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line and it continues to be a source of

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invaluable medical data to the present

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day they still have cells from this poor

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woman that are alive today she'd passed

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away in 1951 I think is where it was yet

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her cell line is still alive

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actually made a number of people rich

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because they went and patented his cell

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line her family however knew nothing

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about this they didn't find out until

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1975 that the cell line existed and and

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and its use for medical research and

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it's still using it today are they not

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yes they are yes they are yeah and it's

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you know it's it's really been very

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beneficial when it comes to the research

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of cancer however they took this without

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her agreement without her family's

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agreement and and profited off of its

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dead none of the family members profited

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either did that no dope nope they did

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not and that that could still happen

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today

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maybe you sent 2:23 right yeah that's

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the thing is I don't think people

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understand I mean it's a big gimmick and

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the reason why you're not getting the

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information on the mainstream channels

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is because you take a look at who's

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advertising on the main stream channels

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23andme and all these companies are

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advertising the drug companies are

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advertising these experimental companies

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are advertising and people who are

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desperate or the ones who go and get

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these experiments done and have them

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done to them and they can be harmed

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you're gonna eat a bit you know harm for

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the main things though that I really did

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need to point out is that if you do not

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want your DNA to be used don't give it

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out yeah I do whatever you know what it

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resists the temptation there there was

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an episode of The Simpsons not too long

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ago where they made a comment they were

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looking for DNA off of a gun shell

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casings and the the researcher who's

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pulling the DNA says oh yeah we've got

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the DNA

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have everybody in the United States if

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you've handled a penny

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the government has your DNA why do you

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think they keep them still in

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circulation so you know the Simpsons

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have made some interesting predictions

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that have come true over the years so

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something like that it really wouldn't

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surprise me but but actually if you

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don't want your DNA out there don't

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voluntarily submit it here's something

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that comes from the horror files again

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of exposing yourself to something that

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sounds good getting paid a lot of money

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to do something it was revealed by the

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Food and Drug Administration and they

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won't officially confirm this but once

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again you you do some digging you find

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these these little tidbits that you can

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share with people apparently the Food

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and Drug Administration is pursuing

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criminal inquiries into a case of

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medical experimentation it was conducted

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illicitly in offshore location and in

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hotel rooms across the country the

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procedure under investigation was a

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self-styled drug trial apparently it was

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last-ditch effort by a university

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professor of microbiology named William

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Halford who knowingly well he knew he

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was dying from an incurable cancer

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evidently he threw both his professional

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caution and ethics to the winds he

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embarked on a test program for herpes a

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herpes vaccine invented the herpes

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vaccine he didn't get FDA approval for

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it so what'd he do he offered a program

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where people can be paid money to have

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you know this new vaccine injected into

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humans well how far died a year ago but

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not before he inflicted some really bad

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you know bad stuff on people in fact it

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really hit a blow to the ethical and

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regulatory framework of drug testing and

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vaccine testing he may have also

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inflicted adverse side effects on at

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least some of his experimental subjects

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this is the way he offered very shady

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way it's difficult to find all of his

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subjects and to accurately assess what

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medical damage he may have caused some

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of the few participants who have been

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successfully located say they've

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experienced distressing reactions the

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generally accepted medical science

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procedure is in essence to first conduct

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Cissie and safety tests on animals and

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only then if the experimental results

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passed muster with the FDA but he just

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went ahead avoided the animal thing and

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tested on humans the company that he

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formed called rational vaccines which is

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now under the investigator under

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investigation scrutiny has declined to

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comment on the case apart from saying it

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will cooperate with federal inquiries

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and is now adopting a more classical

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approach to product development now

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here's the thing that's interesting one

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of the company's biggest investors is

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Peter Thiel the company that he that

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invested in this vaccine was Peter Thiel

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he's also a board with a company called

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ambrosia which harvests the blood of

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young donors and gives it to aging

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people promising them youth it's the

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it's the drink of the elite Ambrose

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you've heard about this right this this

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company that gives blood transfusions

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from young people they take the blood

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from young people and then old people

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come in or older elite people who have

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enough money come in and they get

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transfusions of young people's blood

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they say gives them gives them youth yes

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and yeah go ahead I was just gonna say

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there's actually been some very and I

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hate to use the word promising but

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promising research it shows that there

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may be some basis to that I mean it's

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it's just really you know unethical in

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my opinion but apparently it it may

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actually work what kind of what kind of

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vampires do we have out there that want

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to take DNA that collect human fluids

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that put human dead Chinese prisoners on

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display but do experiments on kids and

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and yet it was the what was the church

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Church congressional hearings that did

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basically said this shouldn't happen

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Bill Clinton apologized to the tuskegee

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soldiers that were experiment upon with

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syphilis and all they said was it I'm

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sorry they didn't even me that's all I

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got these guys suffered horrible side

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effects from these human

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experimentations and now we're doing it

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again with this FOIA document that I

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sent you and I think people are just

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completely oblivious to these

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experiments are going on in oblivious to

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where their DNA goes well in the past

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they would always target minorities the

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poor the mentally disabled you know they

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would you

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prisons as really you know

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experimentation laboratories insane

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asylums places like that it continues

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somewhat in the same fashion because

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they target people who are poor and

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offer them you know a considerable

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amount of money to basically use their

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bodies as as laboratory experiments so

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it really hasn't changed that much the

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difference probably is that from a most

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part the people are entering into this

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00:24:05,930 --> 00:24:02,540
willingly because they're getting paid

551
00:24:08,410 --> 00:24:05,940
unlike in the past where a lot of the

552
00:24:10,730 --> 00:24:08,420
victims of these you know secret

553
00:24:12,350 --> 00:24:10,740
experimentations it would basically

554
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:12,360
force to they didn't have a choice so

555
00:24:16,790 --> 00:24:13,890
you know you look at some of these

556
00:24:18,740 --> 00:24:16,800
prison experiments you know possibly the

557
00:24:20,660 --> 00:24:18,750
prisoners were promised that you know

558
00:24:22,670 --> 00:24:20,670
they they would have they could have a

559
00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:22,680
bed to sleep on you know rather than

560
00:24:28,250 --> 00:24:25,110
sleeping on the floor if they consented

561
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:28,260
you know to allow themselves to be it or

562
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,450
shut up with syphilis or hepatitis or

563
00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:32,880
things like that right you know nowadays

564
00:24:36,620 --> 00:24:34,950
it's just like well you know the

565
00:24:39,530 --> 00:24:36,630
government has foreclosed on your house

566
00:24:42,050 --> 00:24:39,540
how about if you let us experiment on

567
00:24:43,550 --> 00:24:42,060
your body you know we'll give you you

568
00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:43,560
know a couple hundred dollars so you

569
00:24:47,030 --> 00:24:44,910
don't have to sleep in the street

570
00:24:48,860 --> 00:24:47,040
tonight someone was sending me I can't

571
00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:48,870
even go into the articles I was too busy

572
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:50,130
to look at it was somebody had sent me a

573
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:52,530
an experiment that was carried out or

574
00:24:57,230 --> 00:24:53,760
they brought the subjects in and they

575
00:24:58,730 --> 00:24:57,240
had them inhale diesel exhaust to find

576
00:25:01,100 --> 00:24:58,740
out the effects of the lungs on diesel

577
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:01,110
exhaust and they were paid like what

578
00:25:05,150 --> 00:25:03,450
five thousand dollars a session to go

579
00:25:07,460 --> 00:25:05,160
and inhale diesel exhaust they said it

580
00:25:08,990 --> 00:25:07,470
wouldn't harm them in small amounts so

581
00:25:10,490 --> 00:25:09,000
you know you inhale the diesel exhaust

582
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:10,500
and they test to see how your lungs

583
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:12,210
react to it and I'm thinking you've got

584
00:25:16,490 --> 00:25:14,130
to be kidding me I would not pay five

585
00:25:18,170 --> 00:25:16,500
thousand dollars to inhale diesel

586
00:25:20,990 --> 00:25:18,180
exhaust to see if my lungs would react

587
00:25:25,850 --> 00:25:21,000
well you know a lot of people are really

588
00:25:27,490 --> 00:25:25,860
trusting of authority figures you know

589
00:25:31,299 --> 00:25:27,500
especially

590
00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:31,309
doctors or scientists or even you know

591
00:25:34,510 --> 00:25:33,289
if they think they're that they're you

592
00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:34,520
know dealing with a government official

593
00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:36,559
so you know if somebody says to you that

594
00:25:41,919 --> 00:25:38,240
you know well you know we want to see

595
00:25:43,539 --> 00:25:41,929
what diesel fuel fumes will do to your

596
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:43,549
lungs brain the amount that you're going

597
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:47,120
to be inhaling won't hurt you yeah yeah

598
00:25:51,460 --> 00:25:49,850
it was email Protection Agency secretly

599
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:51,470
testing highly toxic lethal air

600
00:25:56,610 --> 00:25:55,039
pollutants on well actually maybe the

601
00:25:58,899 --> 00:25:56,620
peer the person had to be I guess

602
00:25:59,890 --> 00:25:58,909
near-death I think I don't know what was

603
00:26:01,180 --> 00:25:59,900
going on they're supposed to be

604
00:26:01,899 --> 00:26:01,190
unhealthy people they were supposed to

605
00:26:03,820 --> 00:26:01,909
go in for these

606
00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:03,830
inhaling x' but they would pay them five

607
00:26:06,909 --> 00:26:05,240
thousand but i figure i guess your

608
00:26:08,260 --> 00:26:06,919
health is bad anyway you know what's

609
00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:08,270
five thousand dollars toward your own

610
00:26:10,990 --> 00:26:09,679
funeral and that's the thing that

611
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:11,000
bothers me is that you know they get

612
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:12,799
these people who are desperate and they

613
00:26:16,659 --> 00:26:15,049
say to them oh we need your eggs you

614
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:16,669
know give us your eggs they'll pay like

615
00:26:20,860 --> 00:26:19,010
what eighteen grand per egg but you

616
00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:20,870
don't you only make so many eggs and of

617
00:26:24,820 --> 00:26:23,120
course there's also the the sperm banks

618
00:26:26,350 --> 00:26:24,830
for people they use sperm you don't know

619
00:26:28,750 --> 00:26:26,360
what they're using it for you don't care

620
00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:28,760
but that's the thing it could be used in

621
00:26:31,659 --> 00:26:30,559
in so experiment you don't even know

622
00:26:34,659 --> 00:26:31,669
about you think you're giving it to a

623
00:26:36,490 --> 00:26:34,669
lab to actually have sony you know give

624
00:26:41,169 --> 00:26:36,500
birth but it's not used for that she's

625
00:26:45,909 --> 00:26:41,179
trouble to think once again it's taking

626
00:26:50,730 --> 00:26:45,919
advantage of you know the the the poor

627
00:26:53,140 --> 00:26:50,740
the health struttin people like that the

628
00:26:55,379 --> 00:26:53,150
MKULTRA you know they were doing

629
00:26:58,529 --> 00:26:55,389
experiments in canada

630
00:27:01,379 --> 00:26:58,539
they would take women who had gone into

631
00:27:05,009 --> 00:27:01,389
these hospitals no for I mean nowadays

632
00:27:06,899 --> 00:27:05,019
you know it would be depression you know

633
00:27:10,259 --> 00:27:06,909
it's basically all you know all's would

634
00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:10,269
be and they would drug them with

635
00:27:17,749 --> 00:27:13,329
sedatives and then give them LSD and

636
00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:17,759
keep them sedated and on LSD for like

637
00:27:22,289 --> 00:27:20,289
forty sixty days at a time

638
00:27:24,329 --> 00:27:22,299
oh my god and just to see what would

639
00:27:25,649 --> 00:27:24,339
happen yeah see that's the things let's

640
00:27:27,899 --> 00:27:25,659
just do it and see what happens let's

641
00:27:29,729 --> 00:27:27,909
just yeah and I think people do not know

642
00:27:31,859 --> 00:27:29,739
that this is happening and it just

643
00:27:33,569 --> 00:27:31,869
scares me to think that they're giving

644
00:27:35,549 --> 00:27:33,579
they're putting a big gimmick on this a

645
00:27:36,659 --> 00:27:35,559
lot of people that do this they want to

646
00:27:37,709 --> 00:27:36,669
know their heritage some people want to

647
00:27:39,629 --> 00:27:37,719
do it cuz they want to see if there are

648
00:27:41,339 --> 00:27:39,639
American Indians so you get the benefits

649
00:27:43,709 --> 00:27:41,349
and this is the kind of horror stories

650
00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:43,719
people want money so bad so they'll do

651
00:27:47,639 --> 00:27:45,609
anything including sell their DNA in

652
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:47,649
their spit just for a little bit of

653
00:27:52,619 --> 00:27:50,320
money triple eight six seven three 3700

654
00:27:55,980 --> 00:27:52,629
that's triple 8 673 3700 back with more

655
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[Music]

656
00:28:06,890 --> 00:28:05,390
on ground zero and I wanted to know what

657
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:06,900
do you love to these days I mean you're

658
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:08,610
very busy man and I know you took some

659
00:28:10,580 --> 00:28:10,050
time to be on the show tonight what are

660
00:28:14,810 --> 00:28:10,590
you up to

661
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:14,820
oh well it's always Tim Beckley keeps me

662
00:28:20,060 --> 00:28:18,510
busy with new book projects articles

663
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:20,070
things like that you know we just

664
00:28:26,210 --> 00:28:24,000
recently finished a book about UFO

665
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:26,220
hostilities you know people who may have

666
00:28:33,380 --> 00:28:29,760
come too close to landed UFOs to actual

667
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:33,390
incidents where they allege that you

668
00:28:39,290 --> 00:28:35,250
know UFO occupants actually came out and

669
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:39,300
you know beat him up you know it's

670
00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:40,410
interesting you bring that up because I

671
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:41,910
was looking at one of my guests I'm

672
00:28:46,790 --> 00:28:43,110
having a later this week wrote a book

673
00:28:48,170 --> 00:28:46,800
about something about non-disclosure how

674
00:28:50,510 --> 00:28:48,180
disclosure would not happen and he

675
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:50,520
actually point to the idea of alien

676
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:53,610
experimentation and how there was at a

677
00:29:00,590 --> 00:28:56,880
time these theories about what is known

678
00:29:02,570 --> 00:29:00,600
as his mill labs experimentation where

679
00:29:03,860 --> 00:29:02,580
the military and aliens were carrying

680
00:29:05,740 --> 00:29:03,870
out some of these experiments we're

681
00:29:09,170 --> 00:29:05,750
hearing about taking DNA sperm ovum

682
00:29:11,390 --> 00:29:09,180
things of that nature and experimenting

683
00:29:13,730 --> 00:29:11,400
with it in that you know it was all done

684
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:13,740
according to the aliens in order to help

685
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:15,710
us because we were heading for some

686
00:29:19,550 --> 00:29:18,240
ecosystem collapse where humans would be

687
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:19,560
on the brink of extinction and they

688
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:21,360
would be used to see the planet again if

689
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:24,090
need be and so that that's always been a

690
00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:27,090
question of you know back in the 80s 70s

691
00:29:29,810 --> 00:29:28,380
and 80s we heard of these abduction

692
00:29:31,910 --> 00:29:29,820
cases they all talked about these types

693
00:29:33,710 --> 00:29:31,920
of experiments now these permits being

694
00:29:36,110 --> 00:29:33,720
carried out by people in labs and you're

695
00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:36,120
wondering well you know who are these

696
00:29:39,710 --> 00:29:37,620
people and why are they carrying out

697
00:29:41,390 --> 00:29:39,720
these experiments with DNA and and all

698
00:29:44,180 --> 00:29:41,400
this now and why are they doing it

699
00:29:46,010 --> 00:29:44,190
underhandedly by offering you know you

700
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:46,020
know some sort of a I guess you can say

701
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:48,000
a reward like finding out where your

702
00:29:52,610 --> 00:29:49,770
heritage is or something like that I I

703
00:29:54,290 --> 00:29:52,620
don't get how this is I mean I do get

704
00:29:56,090 --> 00:29:54,300
out salary but just wondering why people

705
00:29:58,820 --> 00:29:56,100
would be so willing to give up their DNA

706
00:30:00,800 --> 00:29:58,830
for this well it's like you said earlier

707
00:30:03,380 --> 00:30:00,810
I mean there are people who are

708
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:03,390
interested and their their genetics

709
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:05,410
their their heritage and

710
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:07,360
know that there are others who are

711
00:30:14,460 --> 00:30:11,890
needing to know if there is you say like

712
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:14,470
a a genetic predisposition towards

713
00:30:20,820 --> 00:30:17,440
certain kinds of diseases so you know I

714
00:30:23,340 --> 00:30:20,830
could see where people would would what

715
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:23,350
what to find out things like that but

716
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:24,880
however as you said if you're just

717
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:26,410
wanting to find out if you're you know

718
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:28,960
related to you know Native Americans or

719
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:30,610
something along those lines perhaps it

720
00:30:35,010 --> 00:30:32,650
would be best just to resist that urge

721
00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:35,020
and you know keep your spit in your

722
00:30:37,650 --> 00:30:36,310
mouth for a while long there are other

723
00:30:39,630 --> 00:30:37,660
ways to figure it out you can go do the

724
00:30:41,310 --> 00:30:39,640
research and just by name only you'll

725
00:30:43,890 --> 00:30:41,320
know who your ancestors all you really

726
00:30:45,450 --> 00:30:43,900
don't have to you know get blood or spit

727
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:45,460
or anything incentive to some company

728
00:30:48,510 --> 00:30:47,110
and have them tell you who you are you

729
00:30:50,190 --> 00:30:48,520
can actually do the work yourself jenny

730
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:50,200
ology is not a hard thing to pick up on

731
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:51,490
in fact that's the only reason why they

732
00:30:55,410 --> 00:30:53,290
do is they give you this idea of where

733
00:30:56,730 --> 00:30:55,420
to begin or to find out here related to

734
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:56,740
and that's what it's all about and you

735
00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:58,450
can do that on your own you don't need a

736
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:00,640
company but take your DNA to tell you

737
00:31:04,410 --> 00:31:02,170
Tim thank you so much for being on the

738
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:04,420
program tonight thank you glad I had a

739
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:06,130
great time I hope your audience enjoyed

740
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:08,290
it as well all your fantastic and glad